Sunday, November 16, 2008

The All-Purpose Lich King AoE Grinding Guide

Sick of questing now? Still only level 70? Tired yourself out from camping baby murloc cages in Borean Tundra, or opening crab traps in Howling Fjord?

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If you're a mage, all of this can be answered, and then some, with my frost-tastic Northrend AoE guide! In this post, I'll teach you the ins and outs of gathering up a bunch of mobs and absolutely murdering them! And by the end, you should have the know-how to blizzard your way to 80!

Part the First: The level 70 Build!

0/0/51 (+10) - The bare bones

This build picks up ALL of the necssary talents required to maximize your AoE grind. Let me break it down to you Talent by Talent.

Frostbite - Combined with shatter, allows for blizzard crits pretty much all the time.

Ice Floes - Gets your Frost Nova sooner, so you can use it just in case something goes wrong. If you're lucky, you won't even have to use it at all!

Ice Shards - Makes blizzard crits absolutely ridiculous.

Elemental Precision - guarantees that Frost Nova hits everybody. Just in case you have to grind on mobs 1 level above you, you don't have to invest as much in Hit rating to achieve 100% accuracy.

Permafrost - Makes them go as slow as possible, giving you more time to hit with blizzard.

Piercing Ice - Increases blizzard damage.

Improved Blizzard - Makes them go even slower, giving you more time to hit with blizzard.

Arctic Reach - Lets you freeze more mobs with frost nova/Shattered Barrier. Also lets you blizzard after a blink.

Frost Channeling - Ensures that you don't go OOM sooner than you need to. Also lets you do more pulls without having to eat/drink.

Cold Snap - Your panic button, in case something goes terribly wrong.

Cold As Ice - Gets your Ice Barrier back sooner, just in case you really need it.

Winter's Chill - Increases the crit chance of Blizzard. Each blizzard tick applies a stack of debuff, so by the time you cast your second blizzard, you essentially have 10% increased chance of critting each tick.

Arctic Winds - Increases your blizzard damage. Also increases your dodge slightly, making your Ice Barrier last a tiny bit longer.

Fingers of Frost - Proc increases crit chance of Blizzard ticks by 50%, thanks to Shatter. It procs ALL THE TIME.

Summon Water Elemental - Take him only for the free ranged frost nova. Keep him on passive, so that he doesn't aggro some random mob from one of your pulls.

Chilled to the Bone - Increases chill effect of your blizzard by another 10%, bringing the total to a disgusting 85%.

This minimal build is good enough to start grinding in outlands, but since we're talking about Northrend, you have another 10 talent points to spend. If you are looking to do other things besides AoE grinding, I suggest putting the remaining points into Improved Frostbolt, Improved Water Elemental, and either Brain Freeze or Empowered Frostbolt.

If you want to really go pure AoE from 70-80 (although I really advise against it), go down the Fire tree and pick up World in Flames, which increases your crit chance of Blizzard by another 10%!

Part the Second: The Gear!

The most important stats for AoE grinding are Stamina, Intellect, Spell Power, and Critical Strike Rating. Stam and Int are important for staying alive long enough to cast your blizzard spells, and to make sure that you don't run out of mana in the middle of a pull. Spell power increases (albeit slightly) the damage done by blizzard. Not as important as the other stats, but it's very good to have. Besides, most quest reward gear give adequate amounts of spellpower anyways. Critical Strike Rating is good too, now that blizzard can crit.

Now for Trinkets, there are two items in the game that I'm glad that I saved up and/or quested for. The Lightning Capacitor and Thunder Capacitor. The Lightning Capacitor drops from Illhoof in Karazhan. Alliance-side, the Thunder Capacitor is a quest reward from a quest chain in Dragonblight given by the NPC Zivlix, located at 54,23, just north of Galakron's rest. Anybody who knows details on how to get it horde-side feel free to drop off a comment.

Why I mention these two trinkets in particular is that they have stacking effects. Each tick tha crits will add a charge to BOTH items. Since Blizzard is going to crit A LOT, you're going to have charges proccing left and right, dealing a whole ton of damage in the meantime. Testing naked on 6 theramore combat dummies, The two capacitors alone increased my DPS by about 800, compared to using the badge trinket and its brewfest equivalent.

Part the Third: The NEW AoE sequence!

Thanks to new features in 3.0, such as Blizzard critting, as well as Shattered Barrier, it's easier than ever to take down multiple mobs. Just follow these easy steps!

1) Cast Ice Barrier. Wait for the cooldown to run down a bit.
2) Run around and gather some mobs. Make sure to just get into their aggro radius, rather than walking right into them, to minimize their damage done to you.
3) When Ice Barrier's cooldown is up, cast it again as you wait for the mobs to gather around you.
4) Let the mobs pound on you until Ice Barrier breaks. Shattered Barrier will freeze all the mobs in on space.
5) As soon as it breaks, BLINK AWAY, RIGHT AWAY. Make sure you blink to a spot that's not close to another mob.
6) Turn around and cast Blizzard, making sure that the farthest edge of the targetting circle is touching the frozen mobs.
7) Cast blizzard again when the channel is close to zero. Make sure to aim it so that they walk right into the blizzard as its being cast.
8) Repeat #7 as necessary. Thanks to the snaring talents, You can fit up to 3 blizzards before they reach you. With adequate gear, you should be able to kill them before they reach you as well. If not, then Frost Nova, Blink, repeat.

Alternatively, for #3-4, you can simply frost nova while your Ice Barrier is still up, but I prefer to save that for just in case you pull another mob to you while you're in the middle of a sequence.

Also, If you have Water Elemental out before you start the pull, you can have it cast freeze during the first cast of Blizzard, so they stay in one place. They're also good for protection, just in case a mob breaks free, or aggros you from elsewhere during the sequence.

Part the Foruth: Grinding on Yellows!

Some of the best mobs that can be AoE'd do not have an aggro radius at all, and will only attack if they are provoked by an attacker. These exist mainly in the form of animals scattered around the place. You can find some that noticeably travel together in formation, thus they can be AoE'd at once, without having to lure each to a particular spot.

However, there's usually a "bull" version of that mob that does have an aggro radius, so it's wise to grab that one and lure it to the rest of the pack. Once you meet up with the rest of the pack, use Arcane Explosion to aggro the entire group, and continue with the grind, either by Shattered Barrier or Frost Nova.

Part the Fifth: IDEAL GRINDING SPOTS!

Just remember, this method works ideally when you gather a group of mobs that are purely melee-class. You don't want to be pulling any ranged classes or casters. Sometimes there are mobs that charge after aggroing, which completely disrupts the pulling process. So skip these. Here are a few of my choice favs.

68-70

Wooly Rhinos, Borean Tundra

They travel in packs, and are often accompanied by bull rhinos. Just stay away from D.E.H.T.A while you're doing this, k?

70-71

Gorloc Waddlers and Gorloc Steam Belchers, Borean Tundra

These guys are scattered close to the coast, just south of the geyser fields. You can probably grab a good number of them and then lure them onto the main path, ensuring that you don't aggro anything else. Just start at one edge of the stretch and work your way down to the other edge. When you get back to the first part, there will be respawns. Excellent group.

Iron Dwarfs, Howling Fjord

There's a large line of them surrounding the excavation. You can pull a few of them, but don't do too many, since their attacks leave a stackable DoT that is sure to kill you. A caster patrols the area, but you can pull it separately from the pack without too much trouble. Respawn is fairly good.

72-73
Wastes Diggers, Dragonblight

These guys have stackable DoT's as well, so watch out and don't pull too many at once. You can rotate between excavation pits and they should respawn by the time you get back to the first one. The Taskmaster is ranged, so be sure to pull him seperately when he patrols to the edge of the area.

Scarlet Onslaught, Dragonblight

Northeast of Wintergarde, there's a large encampment of Onslaught mobs that are purely melee. there are so many groups here that you can have a field day with multiple pulls and respawns will occur when you go back to the beginning.

74-75
Highland Mustang, Grizzly Hills


OH MAN. There are a few herds that gallop in groups of 8-10. These are the ones you want to go for. OH BOY ARE THEY GREAT TO GRIND ON. Remember. Arcane explosion to have the circle collapse on you, then Frost Nova in place. Highly Recommended!

75-76
Venture Corp., Sholazar Basin

JACKPOT! The entire Venture Corp Encampment on the northwest side of the Suntouched Pillar is made of melee mobs. Plan out your pulls, and be sure to stay a safe distance from the "boss" mobs. They're not elite, but they have some nifty ablities that can throw off your pull by a lot. As you work your way through the encampment in a circuit, you'll hit respawns again. As a tailor, I get about 3 or 4 stacks of Frostweave in 10 minutes of AoE'ing here. Great experience as well.

77-80
Skeletal Runesmiths, Icecrown

MEGAJACKPOT! Once you hit 77, you can start "attempting" to grind on these guys. All the mobs in the area are level 80, so you will need quite a bit of hit rating to ensure that Frost Nova never misses on a single person if you're only 77. There are two elongated, slightly elevated platforms with mobs on each side of them. If you do a circle around one of them, you'll grab mobs from three of the four sides. If you're feeling adventurous, you can pull all four sides. With the large amount of mobs aggroed, your ice barrier will break early for sure, so remember to refresh it in the middle of the pull, and to give some time for your cooldown to go down somewhat before you start the pull. Ice Blocking before casting Nova is an asset, and highly advised for such a large number of mobs to pull.

The best part? The respawn timer here is ridiculously low. Once you finish the pull, loot, and run off to the side to drink, they will instantly respawn by the time you're ready to start another pull.

103 comments:

Spicytuna said...

Awesome! I was hoping someone would have AoE grinding areas listed soon. I just got Wrath yesterday (sunday) so I'm playing catch-up right now. This is going to help :) Thanks!

wtfspaghetti said...

I agree with spicytuna...excellent information.

How many mobs do you like to pull? I always seem to take more then I can kill...guess my eyes are bigger then my ownage...lol

wayofthechosen said...

I got Wrath today, and I'm playing catch up as well. I love you, no serious. I do. LOL!.

I can't wait to go home, and rock this out tonight.

luxuryburningblade said...

This is an excellent guide! AOE grinding is one of my favorite parts of being a mage; there's nothing more satisfying than watching 12 Mustangs fall to the ground simultaneously in one nice clump (particularly if you are a skinner like me)!

re: wtfspaghetti - the key is to aggro as many as you can as quickly as you can. As soon as they are all clumped up, nova and blink out before they can get more than a hit on you. If you are targeting blizzard properly, they should not even reach you; those that do can be finished off with CoC.

krizzlybear said...

with Chilled to the Bone, blizzard chills so much that you don't even have to blink to get adequate distance to kill with! I don't use cone of cold anymore, since they die so far away from me now.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else having trouble with the scarlet guys in DB? I'm 71 and dying alot :P ice barrier is gone as soon as I cast it! it's impossible to gather a whole camp and get them clumped enough to get them all with ice barrier.. unless you do as I have been and wait till you're on 50% to ice barrier which usually ends up with me being on 5-10%hp when I start blizz :D

Devv said...

Great guide, krizzlybear! I'm a Fire Mage now, but I'll be adding a Frost build when the dual spec miracle finally lands. Until then, I'm leveling my DK anyhow. Once I can add a Frost spec to my arsenal, I'll give this a shot. Thanks!

krizzlybear said...

@anon: perhaps you're pulling too many at once. Try out 5-6 first, that shouldn't be too troublesome with the ice barrier. And remember, to maximize the duration of IB, wait for the cooldown to be up before pulling, or a little bit before it. You can renew your IB if you think it's going to break. Once you get a feel for a specific location, it'll become cake.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone!

Anonymous said...

The thunder capacitor is not for alliance only, wowhead is just stupid.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Baelgun&n=Meilyn

Anonymous said...

Awesome article. Thanks for all the great advice. I will now be a regular reader of this blog!

Anonymous said...

@wtfspaghetti it takes time to learn this :) as i lvled my mage with this i got annoyed cause i died ALOT but i kept trying and trying and i finally got it now :)

so dont give up and you'll master it :D

tumult said...

Anyone have any thoughts for glyphs for this setup?
Glyph of Frost Nova is what I'm using, and it seems to help. Great guide, I'm currently downing 10-15 Scarlet chumps in Wintergarde for 1800 xp rested.

Anonymous said...

Great guide! AoE grinding is certainly a bit easier with the changes, but the initial concepts are still valueable for newcomers. If anyone wants to get some history on the theory, check out the video "in frost we trust".

To Spaghetti: Stam is a lifesaver when you're running through mobs. Get Stam gear, boost it with any food you can. Also, try it with frost armor on. chills the enemies that DO get too close so they can't do quite so much damage to your Ice Barrier (and I'm not completely sure, but it should make each hit do less damage which means that your Ice barrier can take more hits too). As a frame of reference, I was pulling about 15-20 at a time in Outlands before the recent changes. I think that around groups of 8 is where you start to really see the benefits.

Yes it is difficult at first, and yes you will probably spend a lot of time walking back to your body. Keep at it. Start small and work up. Eventually you'll be doing it everywhere you go. (unless that place is filled with ranged mobs or immune to freeze).

Anonymous said...

Heads up for everyone checking out the Venture Corp. area. This area is heavy with questers and as such a lot of them are going to be picking out mobs and there is a high gank possibility.

Now with the changes to frost, you can reach higher lvl mobs with little trouble. I checked out the mines at 72 and didn't have any trouble with a couple groups of 5 I pulled (rested xp totals around 10k for the pull). Probably could have gotten bigger groups but decided that the area was too crowded for serious grinding.

You may want to lvl to 74 or so with the lower lvl areas then skip over this one.

On the brightside, it's very close to the nesingwary camp to sell off all your greys and you can hearth there and make it an easy spot to check in on in case the questers are awol for a little while.

Bad news is that I was unable to find a FP within a reasonable distance. If anyone can point one out, I'd be glad to know.

Pinkhair 3d said...

There is a flight point in the Nessingwary camp after you complete the quests to repair the flying machine.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Pink!

I couldn't pick up any quests when I went in. On the brightside, I picked up a bunch of xp just from exploring while I looked for a FP and I picked up a decent amount of leather by following people doing the hunting quests.

Anyway! Looking forward to updates to this!

Anonymous said...

finally, thank god someone posted an at least nearly complete guide. keep it updated and THANK YOU

Anonymous said...

Sweet dude ty for taking the time out and finding these spots to grind. I aoe grinded from 56 to 70 and now im kinda doing a mix of both on 70-80. I recomend the dragon waste for 2 reasons. One faster respawn the second i eat and drink there back for more, Secondly theres less competition in that area im 75 and enjoy it greatly. Keep up the good work brother

BadBreath Laughing skulls.

Anonymous said...

hiya all, gr8 list of AOE spots.

been a frost mage for quiet a wile and after the movie in frost we trust.. nvr changed from the path of big fat kills :)
i wanted to share a nice multipurpose aoe grinding with ye all.. now with all those guys going to make death knights.. lvling them and wanting rep with factions like the aldor,.. it is nice to grind for a while in death`s door in BEM.. it will still give decent XP..up to lvl 72 even.. and will give you tons of fel armament and marks of sargeras.. wich still sells very nicely to lvling dk`s :)
have fun all

Anonymous said...

more plz. btw i did not find the mustang area very efficient. but everything else seems to work fine

Anonymous said...

NOTE: for Venture Corp., Sholazar Basin

This pace has a lot of questers going through it all the time. This can make grinding here very hard if not imposable depending on the day. Even at 6:00 A.M. I have seen over 5 players killing mobs for quests in this place. I go questing myself when there are too many other payers there. Nothing worse than a having your pulls taken away by another player as you were trying to AOE them. Grrr..

Anonymous said...

when are u gonna update some new spots. im 77 right now. almost 68. also. why is frostbite good to have? its breaks up ur groups of mobs pulling. i dunno if it makes a differnce when blizzard slows em so much? doese it effect it at all?

Christopher said...

Nice guide! Could you update this with some sweet locations for level 80 characters? Good Frostweave spots, maybe even the elusive crystallized fire, life, and shadow for our tailoring cloth?

I know Winterspring has the best farming for this stuff, but any ideas on places outside of Winterspring. Borean Tundra is pretty heavy on the competition for fire and water in the elemental war zone area. I need another good fire spot. I've been swapping fires for shadows from a miner guildie but this is not sustainable long term. Thanks in advance!

krizzlybear said...

@Christopher: The Venture Co area in Sholozar is quite possibly the best place to AoE grind for frostweave. However, if you check out WoWHead, you will find that the mobs that do drop the crystallized items tend to be mixed in with elites, or are casters/ranged mobs themselves. It's very difficult.

@everyone else: In my travels across Icecrown and Storm Peaks, I've been having some trouble finding spots at the 68-70 level. A lot of good potential sites seem to be a mix of ranged and melee, so it's tough to isolate the ranged away with minimal effort.

My suggestion for now is to continue grinding on the Venture Co. mobs. They may be green at 69, but there's no better place to grind frostweave than this. I'll try my best to keep looking, though! Any tips would be greatly appreciated, and I will give you credit on the post for finding it!

Mathias said...

A well-known AoE-spot that's very good for level 78-80 is the undead at Vile Hold in Icecrown.

The only problem with this spot seems to be that sometimes theres other guys AoE'ing there.

But it is indeed very nice exp.

Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9DOKIGotw&feature=related

Mathias said...

Oops, the spot is in icecrown, not storm peaks.

krizzlybear said...

@Mathias: yeah, I just found that out today. Didn't get a chance to read your comment after I updated the guide, but I find the coincidence to be rather hilarious. Thanks anyways!

Anonymous said...

Skeletal Runesmiths, Icecrown

Been trying these guys having had great success elsewhere. The main problem is that in amongst the Runesmiths are other mobs which have a ranged knockback attack. So you round up the mobs and are starting your blizz and suddenly get knocked high in the air. Not only have you lost your Blizz (and mana) but lose a lot of time being airbourne when you need to be casting. The huge swarm of mobs then head towards you. You try again locking them down with FN...and get interrupted again.

Yes it >can< be done, but the % of failed pulls is very high. Its like you're pulling about 15 mobs, 2-3 of which are casters with an interrupt.

So just a warning.

Anonymous said...

Icecrown grind spot is now nerfed both xp-wise and loot-wise

Anonymous said...

Where do fuck do i grind aoe now?... im lvl 77.... anyone got a spot?

Anonymous said...

Wow, Blizzard sucks. I hate this new patch they're coming out with.. My blizzard used to do a 95% reduction in speed, which is 1/20 the normal mobs speed to 3/5.. That's a huge difference. Thanks for giving mobs a fighting chance again and soloing mages are out of a job again. I guess they're forcing us to go back to questing and grouping for experience.

Fish said...

So given all the changes you still stick with frostbite? I have been very back and forth as to whether its good to take or not, I was leaning towards not just to get more tightly packed mobs, but you're the frost guru. . .

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Gerichette said...

I found the scarlet mobs on the beach in Dragonblight are excellent. They are 71-72 and are all melee. There is a boat there as well that has a large number of deckhands on it. I didn't read all of the comments so if this was already posted sorry!

Gerichette

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Magegopewpew said...

For early lvling I think the shoveltusks in Howling fjord. They are in packs of 5 and totally not dangerous. They are scattered in these packs everywhere, very common.
=D

Anonymous said...

@christopher

there is a very small cave in storm peaks near camp tunkalo (dont have the cords srry) that has a bunch of fire elementals that look like floating lights that have fast respawn timers and die fast they are great for farming eternal fires

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